favorite Bond villain (excluding Mr. Lee)

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I would like to ask you who is your favorite "Bond Villain"
(aside from the "Man with the golden gun").
Mine is Auric Goldfinger. I just love dialogue like :
Bond : Do you expect me to talk ?
Goldfinger : No, Mr Bond I expect you to die !

That is that I call an attitude !!



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It's pretty hard to top old Auric (he had the best sidekick of them all, too), but I gotta admit I always have great fun watching Donald Pleasance's version of Dr. E-- ahem, Blofeld in You Only Live Twice.



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This is easy...Charles Gray as Blofeld in Diamonds Are Forever.

Completely against type (not bald, and far more funny than frightening), but I just love Charles Gray.

Diamonds is also my second favorite Bond film to TMWTGG.



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Brandi, Dave,

Gotta disagree with you both there. I don't think the series EVER cast the Blofeld character correctly. The best Blofeld was the back of Anthony Dawson's head in From Russia with Love.

Best Bond villain? My favorite is Dr. No. Of course, we all wonder what Mr. Lee would have done with that role had the producers listened to his cousin and cast him. However, I think Joseph Wiseman did a fine job. . . and set the standard for future Bond villains.



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I can't really decide which major villain I like best but as for the lesser ones I definetly like Mr Wint and Mr Kidd in Diamonds Are Forever. The coolest pair of assassins that ever walked the earth... Laughing out loud



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I know it's one of the worst Bond films but I really like Christopher Walken in A View To A Kill . He played the part with his usual air of menace and a hint of fun .



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Yaphet Kotto; a truly great actor and intimidating villain.

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Heck, Al, if you're going to be strictly by the book then they've never even cast *Bond* correctly (though Timothy Dalton came closer than most). I just found Pleasance a total riot to watch.

As for Yaphet Kotto... well, he was cool, but LaLD mostly stinks except for the music and has the dumbest villain death of not only any Bond movie but quite possily any non-comedy action movie ever.



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Having seen "Die Another Day" Gustav Graves is now high on my list !



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I guess Im from the Roger Moore fan base when it comes to Bond films . My 2 fave movies are Moonraker and Spy who loved me and those villians would have to be my choices after Scaramanga



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My 2 fave movies are Moonraker and Spy who loved me and those villians would have to be my choices after Scaramanga

Interesting that you say that. . . I've always been a bigger fan of the Bond novels than of the movies. And I always thought that the character of Hugo Drax was one of the best of the literary villains and one of the weakest of the film villains.



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So I can't have Scaramanga? OK, I'll go for Dr No and tiny Nick Nack (after all, he DID have a gun in a bag of peanuts). Can I aloso go for the super camp Elliot Carver, but that's more becasue I'm a Jonathan Pryce fan than any other consideration!

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I loved Donald Pleasance, but my first choice has to be Scaramanga.

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I think the long running villain Ernst Stavro Blofeld was the glue that held Bond films together through changing actors in the 007 series. So, Blofeld would have to be my second favorite villain. Many different actors played Blofeld and each brought something special to the role.

I realize everyone's appreciation of an actor is different and based on a variety of factors including personal taste (or in my case possibly a lack thereof). Of all the Blofelds, my personal favorite was Telly Savalas in 1969's O.H.M.S.S. I also find myself in a minority because I liked this film a lot. I thought it had a good story line and was very original for the day. I guess I'm a romantic at heart and this film has a great love story subplot. I will admit that I was initially put off by the aside which Mr. Lazenby made directly into the camera after the big beach brawl teaser at the beginning of the film. However, if you can put that and a few other quirks which can be credited to (or blamed on) director Peter Hunt aside, you get a good Bond film. I found Mr. Lazenby extremely quick, powerful, authentic and more convincing in his martial arts skills than any other Bond. I was impressed with Mr. Savalas's work in this film and it might actually be my favorite of Savalas's varied movie and tv roles. Maybe I like him for the way he smoked his cigarette. I can't put my finger on it exactly other than he was a class act and it showed.

Someone earlier in the thread, I forget who exactly, mentioned that EON cast Mr. Wiseman in the title role of Dr. No against Mr. Fleming's advice. I believe this casting decision may actually have already been made and a "done deal" well before Mr. Lee's name was proffered by Mr. Fleming. I recall reading that elsewhere, perhaps it was on this site. Whether or not that is true I can not say. However, I do think that it worked out for the best because I just can't see anyone else as Scaramanga except Mr. Lee.

A tip for swordfight fans, don't miss DIE ANOTHER DAY's Pierce Brosnan versus Toby Stevens marathon bladefest. It is one doozie of a swordfight and my favorite scene in the film. It holds up after repeat viewings while the CGI glacier surfing scene doesn't. They really should get someone at Industrial Light & Magic to do their CGI. Halle Berry was far better than I expected in D.A.D. and I anticipate that she will return not only in a recurring role in future Bond films (ala' David Hedison's Felix Leiter or Joe Don Baker's Jack Wade), but perhaps with an Eon film (or even a series) all her own based on her Jinx character. Sorry, I got off topic a tad.

Blofeld, Ernst Stavro Blofeld.



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You're not alone BD; O.H.M.S.S. is an excellent film.

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Let's not forget the secondary villains. Some are as important to the story -- and as memorable -- as the main villains, Oddjob in Goldfinger for one.

My favorite secondary villains are:

The From Russia With Love Quartet. Although Blofeld is 'officially' the main villain, FRWL is one film where the secondary villains all but steal the show.

1. Rosa Klebb (Lotte Lenya). Gives new meaning to the term perversion.

2. Red Grant (Robert Shaw). My favorite psycho. The putting on of gloves before a kill a nice, psychological touch.

3. Kronsteen (Vladek Sheybal). Chess grandmaster and SPECTRE master planner.

4. Morzeny (Walter Gotell). He and his deadly Doc Martens! The best of Blofeld's hulking enforcers.



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Of all the Blofelds, my personal favorite was Telly Savalas in 1969's O.H.M.S.S.

Very few people like Savalas as Blofeld, perhaps because he's seen as too "American." Personally, I think he comes closest to Fleming's original conception of the character: A big, heavy set man with a wiry black crew cut. OK, Savalas was bald. . . but otherwise close enough to the original image.



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I don't know about the Moonraker book, but as far as the movie was concerned Hugo was terribly underplayed. For a megalomaniac with the kind of scheme he was planning, he really should've been grandstanding more.

Alfonso's mention of the redoubtable Rosa Klebb left me thinking of the one last taboo Bond films has: they have yet to have a gay character who isn't a total perverted creep. Not that I'm suggesting Bond's going to (or even should) switch-hit in a future film... though a Crying-Game-style gag might lend new meaning to his 'The things I do for England!'



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I thought Goldfinger was the best. Max Zorin is a close second. Walken just creeps me out.



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Alfonso's mention of the redoubtable Rosa Klebb left me thinking of the one last taboo Bond films has: they have yet to have a gay character who isn't a total perverted creep.

What? You mean Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd in Diamonds Are Forever were creeps? Yes, well, I see your point :rolleyes:

As for my fave Bond baddies I'll have to opt for a two-way split from the same film. From Russia With Love gave us two of the very best - Robert Shaw as Red Grant and the amazing Lotte Lenya (yes, she of "Mack the Knife" immortality) as Rosa Klebb. I'd go so far as to say that aside from Mr. Lee, Lotte Lenya was the biggest scene stealer of any of the Bond baddies.
Of course this should come as no surprise, since From Russia With Love is my favourite Bond film of all time.

Oh, and Brother Dave, I too rank OHMSS amongst the top of the heap. The film kept amazing faith with the book of the same name, and was likely the last Bond-film to actually do so, which gives it a fair bit of credit in my view. While Lazenby was no Connery, his credibility as a Bond has certainly increased since the film's original release, at least amongst discerning Bond fans. Let's face it, he had a hard act to follow, and as an Australian male model, rather than an actor, he had much against him to begin with, but he was also faced with one of the more heavy character-building scripts ever to be utilized in a Bond film, and came out of it as well as anyone could. Although I'm a huge Connery-as-Bond fan, I have problems imagining Connery convincingly manage to have Bond fall in love, marry, and then deal with the loss of his wife all in one film, so I'd say Lazenby deserves more credit than he's been generally given, although, as noted above, Lazenby's performance has grown on many of the old-guard fans as the years have passed.

On a side note, I was pleased to see Lazenby reprise his Bond role (although copyright prohibited the character's name being mentioned) for a brief cameo in the television film The Return of the Man from U.N.C.L.E some years ago.

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Very few people like Savalas as Blofeld, perhaps because
he's seen as too "American." Personally, I think he comes
closest to Fleming's original conception of the character:
A big, heavy set man with a wiry black crew cut. OK,
Savalas was bald. . . but otherwise close enough to the
original image.

So, you took a survey? LOL. Exactly how few were there?
How do you know this?

I know some professional critics said he was miscast. I was
actually going to the theater to see these films back in
their original release (unlike you young whipper-snappers)
and read the reviews. Yet, of all the Blofelds he is the
only one with enough star power to be prominently featured
throughout the film. Also, the only Blofeld with the
physical strength to go man to man and toe to toe with Bond,
or at least bobsled to bobsled. He also was the only
Blofeld perfectly capable of doing his own "dirty work"
instead of having his minions dispense the wrath of
Blofeld. For example, trying to gun down Bond in a drive-by
on his wedding day was about as villainous as Blofeld ever
got!

I knew Mr. Savalas was not a popular choice. That is why I
prefaced my selection with a disclaimer that most would not
agree with me. I thought he was thoroughly convincing in
the role. Given his real life academic background in
psychology, his physical attributes which (as you pointed
out) largely agreed with the novel's characterization, and
of course the all important way he smoked his cigarettes,
he's the better Blofeld. While Savalas may have been
miscast, I've seen far worse casting choices.

Oh, and Telly Savalas wasn't "heavy set" as you put it. He
was "big boned." :frostyang

And Josh, yes ZORIN was very creepy. That was a
breakthrough role for Mr. Walken. He would be my third
favorite villain.

And if we are going to talk favorite henchmen, I would have
to go with JAWS. Laughing out loud



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I know it's one of the worst Bond films but I really like Christopher Walken in A View To A Kill . He played the part with his usual air of menace and a hint of fun .

I'm of the opinion that there is NO SUCH THING as "worst Bond film". Each has it's own good points and bad. For example, D.A.D. has that great swordfight and also has the dreadful glacier surfing scene that looks like something out of JOHNNY QUEST. Laughable almost. Even my son thought the surfing scene was cheesy.

VTAK also had Grace Jones as MAY DAY, another great Bond minion. Here is a dream match for you! JAWS versus MAY DAY!

On the negative side of VTAK there was the senseless death of Sir Godfrey Tibbett, an interesting character I would have liked to seen more of,and whose death served no purpose other than to set Bond up for a daring underwater escape. You can find good and bad in all Bond films. Although sometimes it is harder to find the bad in a few of them like TMWTGG. Bond needed more gadgets in TMWTGG, Q let him down there I think. :frostyang



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So, you took a survey? LOL. Exactly how few were there?
How do you know this?

1. No.
2. 42 -- That's also the same number of roads a man must walk down before he's called a man.
3. MI6 told me.

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Alfonso's mention of the redoubtable Rosa Klebb left me thinking of the one last taboo Bond films has: they have yet to have a gay character who isn't a total perverted creep.

I'm not sure that's strictly true... Pussy Galore was a gay character, roll in the hay aside. (Admittedly, this was more coded in the movie than in the book.)

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[B]Not that I'm suggesting Bond's going to (or even should) switch-hit in a future film...

Absolutely he should... it's high time he got with the times. Smile



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I'm not sure that's strictly true... Pussy Galore was a gay character, roll in the hay aside. (Admittedly, this was more coded in the movie than in the book.)

Really? I sure wasn't seeing it-- it was more coded than the attitude of Theo in The [original] Haunting.



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I just realised something . Caroline Munro is'nt just my favourite Bond girl , she's probably my favourite baddie as well .
After all as Naomi in The Spy Who Loved Me she was on the wrong side and tried to kill our hero from her helicopter .
Even so , I do'nt think that's a good enough reason to kill her.............I'm just a sucker for a pretty face Wink

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Really? I sure wasn't seeing it-- it was more coded than the attitude of Theo in The [original] Haunting.

It was *extremely* coded in the movie... IIRC, mostly just the name and just about everything surrounding the all-girl flying school. The book was more explicit with its hints, apparently, so it may even have come across as an in-joke.

It's a pretty common trend in movie adaptations of books... they tend to be a bit more conservative, socially. Someone deep into film history might go on about the consensus medium and so on... but that probably isn't me. Smile



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mostly just the name and just about everything surrounding the all-girl flying school. The book was more explicit with its hints, apparently, so it may even have come across as an in-joke.

In the novel it was a gang of lesbian burglars. If I'm not mistaken, the novel also hints of Pussy Galore having an affair with Tilly Masterson.



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Absolutely he should... it's high time he got with the times. Smile

I think people have been as many ways as human beings can be since time immemorial. It is just now, with a world that is more drawn together by the mass media, that societies discuss sexuality and sexual practices more openly - or at least attempt to do so.

However, back to Bond - I'm not so sure the majority of movie goers would be prepared to accept a switch-hitting Bond. That said, I personally would find him quite intriguing, especially if his, er... new friend were either Tom Selleck or perhaps Kevin Kline. (for those of you not familiar with it, Kevin Kline starred in the movie In and Out which featured him as a closeted English teacher engaged to a woman who also taught in the same school. Anarchy ensues when he is outed by a former student, whose revelations send the news media - in the person of an openly gay reporter portrayed by Tom Selleck - descending upon the small town he lives in. Wonderful, warm delightful movie, happy ending and all!) :devil:



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However, back to Bond - I'm not so sure the majority of movie goers would be prepared to accept a switch-hitting Bond.

Not to mention what M would say.:1devil:



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Forget M; what would Q say?
"Pay attention, 007. Here's you newest device; I call it a "switch" blade."
wink, wink. nudge, nudge. say no more.

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